What is there to talk about with Iran
Iran is developing nuclear weapons and has clearly declared what they will do with nuclear weapons once developed. Many politicians and pundits in the West have stated that we need to talk with the Iranians to diffuse the international crisis. Talk about what?
Does any sane person believe that we could talk Iran out of developing nuclear weapons? Iranian leaders clearly understand the costs and benefits of developing nuclear weapons. Having done the calculus, Iranian leaders have decided that having a nuclear arsenal provides benefits that far outweigh the costs. Analysts who believe that Iran is a rational nation-state believe that Iranian leaders merely want the ultimate defensive weapon for the regime or want to become the regional hegemon. Other analysts, who actually listen to Ahmadinejad's rhetoric, believe that Iran is a theocratic cult that wants to bring on the end times by destroying Israel and dragging America into allout nuclear war. Who has it right?
Who believes that Iran can be talked into accepting the legitimacy of non-muslim peoples and nations? Iran cannot accept the existence of Israel let alone the right of non-muslims to be free to choose what god they worship or how they live their lives. The mullahs tolerate no discussion within their borders amongst their own subjects. How can there be a discussion with infidels outside of Iran when there is no discussion inside Iran amongst believers? Iran thinks that they alone know God's will and that they are divinely appointed to do God's work on earth.
What is there to negotiate with Iran? The mullahs say they are not interested in the number of watermelons sold nor the cost of watermelons? Iran is standing on principle, that allah said that the entire world shall submit to allah. Iran will not negotiate principle for improved standards of living, better trade agreements or anything else. Only principle matters.
There is nothing to talk with Iran about. All the words that need to be said have been said. All that remains is determining who will stand on principle and fight for their principles. President Bush declared that Iran will not be allowed to field nuclear weapons. The West needs to stand by that principle. If that means destroying Iran then so be it.
The West has tried to bring a liberal democracy to muslims but that effort has failed. There is no reason to try again. Many pundits claim that the Iranian people like Americans and would embrace a liberal government. I've seen that pig-in-a-poke before. There is no reason to rebuild Iran after we destroy it. Let the survivors clean up the mess. If the Iranian people rebuild into something we abhor, then we can destroy it again later. No need to put armies on the ground.
Iran can be the model that Iraq wasn't. The West will not submit to islam but will in fact destroy islamic regimes if they disturb the international order. Islamic regimes are responsible for the lives of their mothers, children and grandparents. Not us. There are repercussions for your actions. Don't count on Westerners to care for your people more than you do.
The West needs to tell muslims these facts before they die by the millions and the survivors live in stone age squalor. That is the only talk we need to have with these 7th century heathens.
Does any sane person believe that we could talk Iran out of developing nuclear weapons? Iranian leaders clearly understand the costs and benefits of developing nuclear weapons. Having done the calculus, Iranian leaders have decided that having a nuclear arsenal provides benefits that far outweigh the costs. Analysts who believe that Iran is a rational nation-state believe that Iranian leaders merely want the ultimate defensive weapon for the regime or want to become the regional hegemon. Other analysts, who actually listen to Ahmadinejad's rhetoric, believe that Iran is a theocratic cult that wants to bring on the end times by destroying Israel and dragging America into allout nuclear war. Who has it right?
Who believes that Iran can be talked into accepting the legitimacy of non-muslim peoples and nations? Iran cannot accept the existence of Israel let alone the right of non-muslims to be free to choose what god they worship or how they live their lives. The mullahs tolerate no discussion within their borders amongst their own subjects. How can there be a discussion with infidels outside of Iran when there is no discussion inside Iran amongst believers? Iran thinks that they alone know God's will and that they are divinely appointed to do God's work on earth.
What is there to negotiate with Iran? The mullahs say they are not interested in the number of watermelons sold nor the cost of watermelons? Iran is standing on principle, that allah said that the entire world shall submit to allah. Iran will not negotiate principle for improved standards of living, better trade agreements or anything else. Only principle matters.
There is nothing to talk with Iran about. All the words that need to be said have been said. All that remains is determining who will stand on principle and fight for their principles. President Bush declared that Iran will not be allowed to field nuclear weapons. The West needs to stand by that principle. If that means destroying Iran then so be it.
The West has tried to bring a liberal democracy to muslims but that effort has failed. There is no reason to try again. Many pundits claim that the Iranian people like Americans and would embrace a liberal government. I've seen that pig-in-a-poke before. There is no reason to rebuild Iran after we destroy it. Let the survivors clean up the mess. If the Iranian people rebuild into something we abhor, then we can destroy it again later. No need to put armies on the ground.
Iran can be the model that Iraq wasn't. The West will not submit to islam but will in fact destroy islamic regimes if they disturb the international order. Islamic regimes are responsible for the lives of their mothers, children and grandparents. Not us. There are repercussions for your actions. Don't count on Westerners to care for your people more than you do.
The West needs to tell muslims these facts before they die by the millions and the survivors live in stone age squalor. That is the only talk we need to have with these 7th century heathens.
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